Torture: Properly Defined
These are the monstrous barbarities our jihadist enemies engage in.
Note the eerie silence from leftist corners about this matter. This reminds me of an exchange with a peacenick I had a few months ago. Here is a snippet:
>> “well, your torture is worse than ours because it leaves physical
>> marks” is absolutely ridiculous and counter-productive
That was not my argument. I was drawing a distinction between things
that are clearly cases of torture (e.g., killing someone by chopping
their head off) and other things which are merely coercive tactics
(e.g., playing loud music, waterboarding). By labeling all of these
examples as “torture” you minimize the ability to make this crucial
and very real distinction. I strongly suspect that the Left and many
Democrats are in favor of muddling the distinction because it makes it
easier to smear their political opponents.>> The politics of torture, which you support,
Aha! You are partaking in the smear tactic I just referenced.
>> Are we still different enough if we torture? Unfortunately, I don’t
>> think so
So your position is that the following two things are morally equivalent:
• interrogating unlawful enemy combatants by coercive means such as
sleep deprivation and waterboarding to save innocent lives
• murdering
by barbaric means innocent women and children to establish an Islamic
theocracyI don’t think that is a reasonable position.
>> That you are willing to inflict suffering, that you are willing to
>> pre-authorize (and retroactively authorize) the government to do such
>> things to *defenseless prisoners*
Among your “defenseless prisoners” are known monsters like these
terrorists
http://www.dni.gov/announcements/content/DetaineeBiographies.pdf>> is extremely telling of how weak your principles are
Please articulate the principle you think that I am violating.
I think your answer to the following hypothetical situation will do
much to clarify *your principles*. If you captured a terrorist that
was known to have planted a dirty bomb in New York City which was
capable of killing a 100,000 people and the terrorist refused to tell
you the exact location of the bomb so that you could defuse it, would
you use coercive tactics like waterboarding to extract this information?
I never heard back from the person after I asked them this hypothetical question.
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