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Video: Muslim Chaplains Caught Deceiving in Public

Below you’ll find footage of a Muslim proselytization event at a public library.  The footage shows how two Muslim chaplains practice the Islamically sanctioned deception techniques of takiyya and kitman on the audience: 

Taqiyya (mental reservation): the religiously-sanctioned doctrine, with its origins in Shi’a Islam but now practiced by non-Shi’a as well, of deliberate dissimulation about religious matters that may be undertaken to protect Islam, and the Believers.” An example of “Taqiyya” would be the insistence of a Muslim apologist that “of course” there is freedom of conscience in Islam, and then quoting that Qur’anic verse — “There shall be no compulsion in religion.” But the impression given will be false, for there has been no mention of the Muslim doctrine of abrogation, or naskh, whereby such an early verse as that about “no compulsion in religion” has been cancelled out by later, far more intolerant and malevolent verses.   

Kitman (concealment): “Kitman” is close to “taqiyya,” but rather than outright dissimulation, it consists in telling only a part of the truth, with “mental reservation” justifying the omission of the rest. One example may suffice. When a Muslim maintains that “jihad” really means “a spiritual struggle,” and fails to add that this definition is a recent one in Islam (little more than a century old), he misleads by holding back, and is practicing “kitman.” When he adduces, in support of this doubtful proposition, the hadith in which Muhammad, returning home from one of his many battles, is reported to have said (as known from a chain of transmitters, or isnad), that he had returned from “the Lesser Jihad to the Greater Jihad” and does not add what he also knows to be true, that this is a “weak” hadith, regarded by the most-respected muhaddithin as of doubtful authenticity, he is further practicing “kitman.”  

Here is additional context for the video.  The event had been advertised as a presentation about Islam followed by a Q&A session for non-Muslims.  This was a good opportunity to put into practice some of Fitzgerald’s tips about arming yourself with knowledge and asking pointed questions meant to shed clarity on the Islamic worldview. 

In light of this opportunity I decided to go to the event and ask the first three of the following questions (I had printed all 5 and pasted them to my video camera so I would not forget them in the heat of the moment):

  • We hear from the MSM and Muslim apologists that Islam is “the RoP” yet around the world Muslims commit abominable acts such as sawing people’s heads of and murdering women and children in the name of Islam, why are moderate Muslims not more successful at refuting these terrorists on Islamic grounds?
  • Why do Muslims revere Mohamed in light of his immoral acts described in the Koran and Hadiths, such as consummating his marriage with Aisha his 9 year old wife and ruling by the sword?  Why he is called in the Koran “uswa hasana” and in Islamic tradition “al-insan al-kamil“?
  • How do we know you are not using the Islamically sanctioned deception techniques of takiyya (concealment) and kitman (mental reservation) on the audience?
  • Why are so many people who leave Islam sentenced to death?
  • Why do Muslims consider Christians and Jews second class citizens as defined by the term “dhimmi”?
  • Why have Muslim leaders not issued a fatwa against bin Laden for the 9/11 terrorist attacks or his declaration of war on us? Can you [Muslim presenters] give me your word that you will ask them to issue one against Osama bin Laden?

Shortly after I arrived at the venue the moderator explained that each of the Muslim chaplains would give a 30-45 minute presentation after which there would be a Q&A period, but the questions for the Q&A period had to be submitted in advance in writing.   

Given the “politically incorrect” tone of my questions I was fairly certain (and later proven correct) that my questions would not be selected so I decided to verbally ask them after the second Muslim chaplain finished his presentation.  This is in fact what I did and shortly after I began asking my first question another person in the audience, who I refer to as the Samaritan, started to describe how he had personally suffered under Islam.  Unfortunately, the presenters would have none of it.   

Without giving the rest of the video away you should keep in mind the following before watching it:

  • one of the presenters tries to intimidate the Samaritan and me into leaving the premises
  • one of the presenters claimed, in a non-sequitur fashion, that the MSM is to blame for moderate Muslims not being able to refute Muslim terrorists on Islamic grounds.
  • one of the presenters implies that it is hypocritical to draw attention to the role Islam plays in Muslim terrorist acts when we don’t attribute the Oklahoma City Federal building bombing to Christianity.  The presenter fails to see the lack of a parallel since the Oklahoma City Federal building bombing: 1) was not part of a world wide systematic strategy, 2) has no worldwide support system, 3) was not tacitly accepted by the West through lack of condemnation, 4) was roundly condemned by the Christian community
  • I submitted 5 questions and even though the presenters gave me their word that they would answer them only 2 were selected
  • my questions were not read in their entirety; references to specific Muslim terrorist abominable acts were omitted as well as having the phrase “consummating his marriage with Aisha his 9 year old wife” deceptively changed to “consummating his marriage with Aisha who was 9 years” thus falsely leaving an impression that Mohamed had been with Aisha for 9 years.
  • one presenter not only establishes a moral equivalence between terrorists and the United States, but subtly implies that people including politicians in the
    United States are morally worse than the terrorists
    .
  • one presenter implies that women get better treatment in Islamic countries than they do in the
    United States

I encourage others to do inform themselves.  The more light people shine on the Islamic world view the less effective the techniques of taqiyya and kitman will be. 

FYI: The handout I passed out consisted of an article on Jihadism and the Koran, a chart comparing Christian and Islamic doctrine, and a chart comparing Jesus and Mohamed.

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September 5, 2006 - Posted by josephnadir | Islam, Politics, Terrorism, dhimmi, jihad, kitman, taqiyya | | 9 Comments

9 Comments »

  1. You think there is any patern to this?……YOU THINK

    Take the test

    Do you remember?

    1. 1968 Bobby Kennedy was shot and killed by
    a. Superman
    b. Jay Leno
    c. Harry Potter
    d. a Muslim male extremist between the ages of 17 and 40

    2. In 1972 at the Munich Olympics, athletes were kidnapped and massacred by
    a. Olga Corbett
    b. Sitting Bull
    c. Arnold Schwarzenegger
    d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

    3. In 1979, the US embassy in Iran was taken over by:
    a. Lost Norwegians
    b. Elvis
    c. A tour bus full of 80-year-old women
    d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

    4. During the 1980’s a number of Americans were kidnapped in Lebanon by:
    a. John Dillinger
    b. The King of Sweden
    c. The Boy Scouts
    d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

    5. In 1983, the US Marine barracks in Beirut was blown up by:
    a. A pizza delivery boy
    b. Pee Wee Herman
    c. Geraldo Rivera
    d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

    6. In 1985 the cruise ship Achille Lauro was hijacked and a 70 year old American
    passenger was murdered and thrown overboard in his wheelchair by:
    a. The Smurfs
    b. Davey Jones
    c. The Little Mermaid
    d. Mu slim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

    7. In 1985 TWA flight 847 was hijacked at Athens, and a US Navy diver trying to rescue passengers was murdered by:
    a. Captain Kidd
    b. Charles Lindberg
    c. Mother Teresa
    d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

    8. In 1988, Pan Am Flight 103 was bombed by:
    a. Scooby Doo
    b. The Tooth Fairy and The Sundance Kid
    c. Forrest Gump
    d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

    9. In 1993 the World Trade Center was bombed the first time by:
    a. Richard Simmons
    b. Grandma Moses
    c. Michael Jordan
    d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

    10. In 1998, the US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by:
    a. Mr. Rogers
    b. Hillary Clinton, to distract attention from Wild Bill’s women problems
    c. The World Wrestling Federation
    d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

    11. On 9/11/01, four airliners were hijacked; two were used as missiles to take
    out the World Trade Centers and of the remaining two, one crashed into the US Pentagon and the other was diverted and crashed by the passengers. Thousands of people were killed by:
    a. Bugs Bunny, Wiley E. Coyote, Daffy Duck and Elmer Fudd
    b. The Supreme Court of Florida
    c. Mr. Bean
    d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

    12. In 2002 the United States fought a war in Afghanistan against:
    a. Enron
    b. The Lutheran Church
    c. The NFL
    d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

    13. In 2002 reporter Daniel Pearl was kidnapped and murdered by:
    a. Bonnie and Clyde
    b. Captain Kangaroo
    c. Billy Graham
    d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

    Nope, .I really don’t see a pattern here to justify profiling, do you? So, to ensure we never offend anyone, particularly fanatics intent on killing us, airport security screeners will no longer be allowed to profile certain people. They must conduct random searches of 80-year-old women, little kids, airline pilots with proper identification, secret agents who are members of the security details, 85-year old people with metal hips, but leave Muslim Males between the ages 17 and 40 alone lest they be guilty of profiling. The Gloria Aldreds and other dunder-headed attorneys along with Federal Justices that want to thwart common sense, should feel doubly ashamed of themselves — if they have any such sense. As the writer of the award winning story “Forrest Gump” so aptly put it, “Stupid is as stupid does.” Come on people wake up!!!

    Comment by bargainshaq | September 5, 2006

  2. This just goes to show that TSA is just a false sence of security. we should probably do as the Israelis do and search all Muslims that enter their airplanes.

    Comment by jerome | September 6, 2006

  3. totally agree with both bargainshaq and jerome’s comments.
    great work on this video, I have put it on my vlog on youtube.

    I hold different views on the neo-cons and the bush admin than most anti-jihadists, but I’m totally onboard with the exposure of islam for what it is.

    Comment by Ghostwolf | September 10, 2006

  4. Although it is true that most Muslims are against United States, for some obvious and logical reasons, I totally disagree with Jerome because it is unconstitutional to search people because of their religious belief or race.

    To be American is to uphold the constitution, if not, you are not being American.

    Comment by Oscar | September 14, 2006

  5. It is interesting that United States still have bases in Turkey, a Muslim nation, that has not been accepted in the European Union because of their ilegal occupation of Cyprus in 1974.

    Why does the United States have good relations with Saudi Arabia, home of the hijakers of 9/11? What about Pakistan, which just made peace with the Taliban?

    Paradox??

    Or interests…

    Comment by Oscar | September 14, 2006

  6. Oscar, it sounds like you are against profiling young Middle Eastern males. I have addressed the faulty logic of that line of reasoning here and here.

    Also, are you in favor or against the US’ ties with these nations?

    I believe the US needs to take a MUCH stronger stance against Muslim regimes around the world, including those with which we have diplomatic ties.

    Comment by josephnadir | September 15, 2006

  7. 1. I am against ties with Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Pakistan. Why dont we liberate those countries…

    2. Uncontitutional, period:

    “”we should probably do as the Israelis do and search all Muslims that enter their airplanes.”"

    Comment by jerome | September 6, 2006

    Comment by Oscar | September 18, 2006

  8. Oscar: I am against ties with Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Pakistan. Why dont we liberate those countries…

    Huh? Is your position that we should “liberate” these countries because we should not have diplomatic ties with them?

    Comment by josephnadir | September 18, 2006

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